Talk:Snufkin/@comment-45937560-20200602043117/@comment-36678579-20200726032532

While shipping discussion is welcome here, I do ask that people remain civil and keep it off the main pages unless adding facts which have sources, or commenting on LGBT themes that have repeatedly occured, such as Too Ticky being based on Tove's partner, or Thingumy and Bob being presented most often as two women or a same gender pairing.

To RadicalChadism:

I think the allegation of "bestality" for people seeing innocent pairings between Moomin characters is a little ridiculous. There's no sexual implication for the concept of Moomintroll and Snufkin being sweethearts, for example, and no characters are human so it is odd to label it as such. I find people often get very consumed by the concepts online of "shipping" and forget that these are children's (and all ages) books with sweet relationships between animal characters, calling the kind of innocent pairings presented and imagined for these series "bestality" is a stretch and applying connotations just not present in these characters.

However, I strongly, strongly disagree with the implication that pairings such as "Joxkin" and "Little Sny" are acceptable in any way and that shaming harmful pairings is merely "cringe". It is my understanding that these are romantically pairing Snufkin's father the Joxter with his son Snufkin, and Snufkin's younger half-sister Little My with her other half-brother Snufkin. I'm concerned by the fact you call these pairings "wrong" in quotes, and "indorsing illegal activity" as if that is a false claim. These are incestuous pairings. There should be no desire to "ship" parents and children or siblings, and it's incredibly concerning if people do so, and if others endorse it or see no problem with it. Creating content like this is illegal, it is endorsing illegal activity, and it is normalising these things. Content of this nature is not in any way tolerated or allowed on this Wiki, nor is endorsing or supporting it. This Wiki, and the Moomin series are all ages and are loved by many children and I will not have anyone, children especially, exposed to anything promoting, normalising or supporting incestuous relationships.

I was going to issue a warning for your behaviour of accusing people of bestiality and "ship bashing" which, as Komachichuu also said, came across as trying to start fights and post unconstructive negativity for the sake of it, which isn't tolerated. With these comments acting as if incestuous ships are acceptable and not seriously disgusting I'm issuing an immediate and permanent block. You seem like you might be young, so I hope you can come to realise these things aren't normal for people to want to promote or create, even if in a fictional or "fandom" setting. It is incredibly worrying that people wish to downplay how wrong these sort of pairings are, and it's a dangerous way of predators finding their way into online communities and causing real damage. It's not just a game or fiction, nobody should seek out to pair up family members romantically and anyone else normalising or promoting it here will also be blocked. I wish you the best.